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Baby Stingray

June 4th 2007 08:20
Looks very much like an alien...



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Comment by Anonymous

June 4th 2007 08:33
OMG how cute is that!!!!! I love it!
Yeah, it does look a little alien like, but check out those human like legs down the bottom of it's 'wings' - that's freaky!
I wonder how big that little baby is...any ideas?
cool pic/post..thanks for sharing...i've never seen a baby stingray before...(at first I thought this post had something to do with "Neighbours".....it must be the permeation of Paris Hilton blondeness seeping into my brain after just reading a blog entry about her....arrggghhhhh)

Comment by katyzzz

June 4th 2007 08:40
An amazing image Ahmed, quite delightful and they grow up able to do such harm.

Just like humans really!

Thanks for a great pic.

katyzzz

Comment by Ahmed

June 4th 2007 08:45
Hi Anon, sorry, no idea how big it is.

Katyzzz, there have been about 17 recorded deaths as a result from Stingrays in Australia since 1969, they are relatively harmless.

Take a look at this dude to see what I mean.

Comment by Philip Sharp

June 4th 2007 15:58
That's BEGGING to get lol'ed, say, in the style of lolcats or icanhascheezburger.com.

Comment by Lilla

June 4th 2007 23:19
Ahmed,

if it is not a digitally enhanced photo, then that is one of the cutest things I have ever seen...

Aboslutely gorgeous... certainly sentient...and I bet you could communicate with it too, given time?

Thanks for sharing this pic.

Cheers

Lilla ...

Comment by Cibbuano

June 5th 2007 02:54

Comment by Damo

June 5th 2007 03:58
Come on now, its a a frog that has been pressed into a plastic plate.

Comment by Adrian

June 5th 2007 06:36
Don't know why, but I kind of get the feeling I need to kill it before it kills me.

Comment by Ahmed

June 5th 2007 07:05
It's perfectly hamless Adrian, you have a better chance of choking to death on a piece of fruit.

Comment by Brenton

June 5th 2007 11:27
Gahh, I did a LolRay for Phillip but Orble won't let me post pictures ATM

Comment by D. Armenta

June 5th 2007 21:59
That baby stingray is adorable!

If it's the species I'm fairly sure it is (Yellow Ray) it doesn't get much wider or longer than your computer keyboard.

Ahmed is absolutely right--all rays are harmless and do not attack people--only defend themselves against them, and even then only under duress.

In the case of poor Steve Irwin, I'm guessing that was just bad bad luck; he either stepped on or put his hand down on one that was buried in the sand and it reacted defensively.

As a divemaster, I have had large Southern stingrays sitting on my head, eating out of my hand, enfolding me in their wings many many many times. I've seen the wild ones at Stingray City in Grand Cayman grabbed at, punched and kicked by ignorami who think they're some sort of Disney exhibit instead of living creatures--with no reaction from the rays except to swim away. There is no harm or malice in them.

Sorry for waxing nerdy there, Ahmed--I have a thing for the less popular/cute animals that get a bad rap...

D.


Comment by Ahmed

June 6th 2007 01:32
Nah I agree, better you speak of how harmless they are now so people know.

Comment by Brenton

June 6th 2007 05:08

Comment by yoda76

June 9th 2007 23:59
This discussion makes no sense... it's like saying falling out of a plane is harmless because it doesn't happen often...

If it can kill you, you need to be aware of it, however unlikely, no?


Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 02:15
It's all relative, Yoda, I mean theres a very real chance you'll choke on the food you eat, how careful of that should you be?

Stingrays are very safe in that they aren't aggresive, you can bully the hell out of 'em but they'll just swim away.

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 02:30
Stingrays are very safe in that they aren't aggresive, you can bully the hell out of 'em but they'll just swim away.

And yet 17 people have died 'cause a Sting Ray decided to bully back.

I don't want to choke on my food - that would be a lame way to go. I know that it's possible, though, and that's why I chew my food.

I'm not saying we should be terrified of Rays - God knows they are as bad as terrorists now that one killed Steve Irwin, but know what you're risks are when you do something.

Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 02:35
I agree, but in all honesty 17 people killed by sting rays, i'd hazzard to say more died by food poisening in the same period of time,.

Having said that I have NO intentions of touching a sting ray, ever.

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 02:43
Having said that I have NO intentions of touching a sting ray, ever.

Well done. You really just are an argumentative little sucker, aren't you?


Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 02:50
well thats relative to how much arguing thats going on around me

That and I have what I'd call an unjustified fear of stingrays (much like I am scared of spiders, which is bloody rich given how often I get bit by 'em).

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 03:21
Maybe it's because you stay away from them?

Comment by D. Armenta

June 10th 2007 05:55
Yoda, Honest now--like I said I swim with and touch them all the time. Like most other animals, they'd rather swim away than attack. When wading in the sand, shuffle your feet so they know you're coming. When snorkeling, keep aware and don't put a hand or foot down on them.

They're really quite docile when they know what's going on==just like most of us! Especially the females, who are quite tolerant (and much larger than the males)

D.

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 06:08
D - I completely believe you and understand...

Just trying to make a point to the red box with glasses

Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 06:11
The red block with glasses already fears all that has stingers, bighters and whatever else, from the humble ant to the mighty spider.

I wouldn't touch that thing if you paid me, and I mean it.

Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 06:18
I also just delted Mrs. Ms comment.

Mr. Enzo, point taken.

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 06:24
Sorry about the comments weirdness - bit of a login snafu.

Mighty Spider... hehe... you wouldn't last 2 days at my house!

Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 09:00
I fear all spiders except daddy long legs.

Since where you have daddy long legs you don't have other spiders.

and yes, I probably wouldn't last the night

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 12:52
Actually, Daddy Long Legs are quite poisonous, but their fangs can't penetrate human skin - therefore completely harmless to humans.

Ans as for no other spiders - my house is proof that that is wrong. We have a lot of greenery around our house, and spiders are always getting in - all kinds.


Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 13:16
I see, apparently your daddy long legs have plotted with your other spider friends.

You really should mow the lawn or something

Comment by Ahmed

June 10th 2007 13:40
ah yes, hasn't been proven true yet, damn rumours that gain too much traction.

Comment by yoda76

June 10th 2007 22:46
Nice one, Brenton - you got me looking:

There is an urban legend stating that daddy long-legs spiders have the most potent venom of any spider, but that their chelicera (fangs) are either too small or too weak to puncture human skin; the same legend is also repeated of the harvestman and crane fly, also called "daddy longlegs" in some locales. Indeed, pholcid spiders do have a short fang structure (called uncate). However, brown recluse spiders also have uncate fang structure, but are able to deliver medically significant bites. Either pholcid venom is not toxic to humans or there is a musculature difference between the two arachnids, with recluses, being hunting spiders, possessing stronger muscles for fang penetration.
Pholcid venom has never been scientifically tested on mammals. This would normally require milking the spiders and injecting the venom into humans or mice. In any case, there are no known cases of a pholcid spider ever biting a human and causing any serious effects.
In 2004, the Discovery Channel show MythBusters set out to test the daddy long-legs myth (season 1, episode 13 "Buried in Concrete"). After measuring the spider's fangs at approximately ¼ mm (average human skin thickness is about 0.10 mm) the show's host was apparently bitten, although the bite produced little more than a mild short-lived burning sensation. This appears to confirm the suspicion that pholcids can penetrate human skin, but that their venom is practically harmless to humans. Additionally, recent research has shown that pholcid venom is actually relatively weak in its effects on insects as well.



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